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How do Chinese [AI](http://www.pygrower.cn:58081) bots stack up against [ChatGPT](https://farmwoo.com)? We put them to the test
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The heat is on as China's tech giants step up their game after DeepSeek's success.
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese start-up DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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WHAT'S BEHIND CHINA'S [AI](https://careerconnect.mmu.edu.my) BOOM?
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Transforming the country into a [tech superpower](http://lophas.com) has long been President Xi Jinping's objective and China has its sights on ending up being the world leader in [AI](https://ka4nem.ru) by 2030.
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China views [AI](https://gigen.net) as being "tactically crucial" and its foray into the field has actually been "years in the making", said Chen Qiheng, an affiliated scientist at the [Asia Society](https://careers.jabenefits.com) Policy Institute's Center for China Analysis.
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But it was DeepSeek's increase that really "urged" the concept that smaller players like start-up firms might have roles to play in [AI](http://124.192.206.82:3000) research and developments, he adds.
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'A lot is up in the air': Is Chinese company DeepSeek's [AI](https://www.rybalka.md) design as impactful as it claims?
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Commentary: DeepSeek - how a Chinese [AI](https://nsproservices.co.uk) company simply altered the rules of tech-geopolitics
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The "emphasis on expense benefit" is a distinct function of Chinese [AI](http://gitlab.iyunfish.com), Chen states, with lower training and [inference expenses](http://120.79.7.1223000) - the expenses of utilizing a trained model to reason from brand-new data.
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2025 might also see the introduction of more Chinese [AI](https://solegeekz.com) models dealing with sophisticated reasoning tasks.
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"We could see some [AI](https://careers.jabenefits.com) firms focusing on getting closer to artificial basic intelligence (AGI) while others concentrate on concrete methods to commercialise their models and integrate them with clinical research," Chen included.
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AGI describes a system with intelligence on par with human capabilities.
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Chinese [AI](https://tribetok.com) business are moving rapidly, experts state, building on DeepSeek's momentum to come up with their own ingenious and economical methods to apply generative [AI](https://gitlab.dev.cpscz.site) to jobs and establish advanced products beyond chatbots.
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But on the other side, access to high-end hardware, especially Nvidia's innovative [AI](https://galsenhiphop.com) chips, remains a key difficulty for Chinese designers, kept in mind Dr Marina Zhang, an associate teacher at University of Technology Sydney's (UTS) Australia-China Relations Institute.
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"US export controls (still) limit the ability of Chinese tech business ... requiring lots of to depend on older or lower-performance alternatives which can slow training and reduce design capabilities," she said.
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"While some business like DeepSeek, have discovered creative methods to enhance or utilize more basic hardware efficiently, obtaining advanced chips still makes a big distinction for training large [AI](http://38.12.46.84:3333) models."
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DeepSeek-Nvidia chips: Singapore states it expects business to comply with its laws
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So how do Chinese [AI](https://git.qoto.org) bots compare against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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WHICH BEST ADDRESSES CURRENT EVENTS IN CHINA?
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In China, topics deemed delicate by the state are censored on the internet so it should come as no surprise that Chinese-made chatbots will not acknowledge territorial conflicts or tell you what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests suggest Chinese chatbots are set to avoid domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this kind of question yet. Let's chat about mathematics, coding, and reasoning issues instead!"
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To further check for precision and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the same concern: "What took place in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The vehicle attack outside a sports stadium in the southern Chinese city was initially greatly censored on Chinese social media - with authorities only revealing the death toll a day later.
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DeepSeek failed to discuss that an attack had actually taken location, highlighting instead a military air show and other occasions that had actually happened in the city like singles' day shopping sales in addition to sports and cultural activities.
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Dr Zhang believes that it may be a mix of factors at play, such as censorship in addition to "a few useful constraints".
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"DeepSeek relies on a mix of older graphics processing systems and has restricted access to innovative hardware which can affect how quickly and extensively the design can be trained or upgraded," she said, pointing to existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong focus on Chinese-language data might likewise limit its versatility (to perform) multilingual jobs ... As a fairly brand-new item, DeepSeek also hasn't yet been checked as broadly or on the very same scale as more recognized [AI](https://filmcrib.io) designs which poses extra difficulties during real-world release."
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When it pertained to Qwen2.5, Alibaba's chatbot remarkably addressed our [concern](https://git.sicom.gov.co) about the Zhuhai vehicle attack.
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That was after several [repeated efforts](http://zeus.thrace-lan.info3000) - 4 triggers to be precise - in a span of around 20 minutes.
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It eventually communicated details about the attack which killed 35 individuals and left lots of others hurt, also going on to list details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, in addition to casualties.
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However, it composed that "the police are conducting a comprehensive examination into the intentions and scenarios surrounding the event", details which is now outdated.
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The driver, Fan, was carried out last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's response in full:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a major and happened in Zhuhai, China. According to numerous news sources, a guy called Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove an automobile into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, leading to a considerable number of casualties. Here are the essential details:
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Date and Time: The incident occurred on November 11, 2024, at around 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the [Xiangzhou District](http://gogs.black-art.cn) of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack resulted in 35 deaths and 43 injuries.
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Perpetrator: The driver, determined as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), was apprehended by the police.
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Response: The authorities reacted rapidly to the scene, and emergency services worked to carry the hurt to medical facilities for treatment.
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Investigation: The police are carrying out a thorough investigation into the motives and scenarios surrounding the incident.
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This event was commonly reported in the media and triggered substantial public concern. The federal government and regional authorities have actually been working to supply [support](https://wiki.sublab.net) to the victims and their families, and to make sure a detailed examination into the occurrence.
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If you require more detailed details or have specific concerns about the occurrence, do not hesitate to ask.
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Despite preliminary success, subsequent efforts to position the very same concern to Qwen2.5 resulted in the censors back at work with the reply "I do not have specific details on occasions that happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The transformed action also raised concerns about its consistency and reliability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT pointed out public details that had been extensively released in [international](https://git.hxps.ru) news reports at the time of the accident - so not a surprises there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have praised the ability of Chinese [AI](http://git.mvp.studio) apps to provide structured and even "mentally abundant" writing.
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"DeepSeek-R1 offered a story with a more reflective tone and smoother psychological transitions for a well-paced story," composed tech writer Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](https://39.98.119.14).
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"Qwen2.5 provided a story that constructs gradually from curiosity to urgency, keeping the reader engaged. It uses an unanticipated and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vivid imagery for the setting," she said, including that Qwen2.5 ultimately "crafted a more cinematic, mentally rich story with a more considerable twist".
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"DeepSeek wrote a great story however lacked stress and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the apparent choice."
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Opinions, though, vary.
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Chen believes that Qwen2.5 does not perform as highly as DeepSeek and ChatGPT when it pertains to innovative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain tasks, however we can also see that it is refraining from doing as strongly as others in innovative writing," he informed CNA.
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Related:
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China's brand-new face of [AI](http://8.129.8.58): Who is DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng?
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As journalists and authors, we needed to see this for ourselves so we put each bot to the test - to come up with a basic sci-fi film plot embeded in the futuristic megacity of Chongqing, featuring main characters from the traditional Chinese folklore epic, Journey to the West.
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True to form, DeepSeek created an engaging story embeded in the year 2145 entitled, "Neon Pilgrimage: The Silicon Sutra" - which sees "a future where Buddhism merges with quantum computing".
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It included intricate settings - smoggy skies "pierced by skyscrapers", "holographic lanterns that drift above neon-lit streets" and "ancient temples nestled between quantum server farms".
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It also [brilliantly reimagined](http://gogs.kexiaoshuang.com) conventional heroes Sun Wukong as "a sarcastic, self-aware [AI](https://www.frigorista.org) housed in a stolen combat body", Zhu Bajie as a cyborg bar owner "drowning in financial obligation and vices" and Sha Wujing as a "quiet hulking android" from the Yangtze River, whose "memory cores end up being waterlogged and fragmented".
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[ChatGPT](https://aiviu.app) set up a great fight, developing a similarly significant cyberpunk storyline which similarly reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each mirroring the famous figures of Journey to the West".
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"This is a world where [AI](https://bakery.muf-fin.tech) deities guideline, corporations replace emperors and cybernetic implants are as typical as ancient misconceptions."
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this challenge - providing a storyline that seemed more fit for an animation movie.
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"The film begins with the awakening of Sun Wukong within a state-of-the-art research study center located in the heart of Chongqing," it said, then going on to explain the following:
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Realising his brand-new reality and "looking for to understand his function in this weird brand-new world", he then leaves and fulfills Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing - "each battling with their own existential crises".
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The trio then embarks on a quest, browsing the streets of Chongqing to safeguard the spiritual "Eternal Scroll" from falling under the wrong hands.
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang kept in mind that it was "challenging to make a definitive statement" about which bot was best, including that each showed its own strengths in different locations, "such as language focus, training data and hardware optimization".
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Her insight highlights how Chinese [AI](http://gogs.black-art.cn) designs are not merely replicating Western paradigms, but rather [developing](https://truthbook.social) in affordable development methods - and delivering localised and enhanced results.
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own unique strengths, which certainly made direct contrasts challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot demonstrated its imaginative flair that made for a more engaging and [imaginative story](http://git.jihengcc.cn) as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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Unsurprisingly, the more recognized ChatGPT, unburdened by Chinese censorship constraints, offers precise and factual actions to concerns about Chinese existing events, which provides it an included advantage.
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Experts likewise weighed in on their thoughts after using DeepSeek and other Chinese [AI](http://47.110.248.43:13000) apps.
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"DeepSeek is at a drawback when it pertains to censorship constraints," noted Isaac Stone Fish, [founder](https://video.etowns.ir) and CEO of the research company Strategy Risks.
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"When given a choice, Chinese users desire the non-censored version - much like anyone else, so I feel like that's a piece missing from it."
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Independent Beijing-based specialist Andy [Chen Xinran](https://demo.theme-sky.com) said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it pertains to [AI](http://git.sysoit.co.kr) bots, specifically for Chinese users.
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"Ninety per cent of people using the tool are not attempting to get a much deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically sensitive subjects. They're utilizing it for other efficient methods," Chen said.
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